9-11 does not equal watchmen
From: Damian Hospital
To: Tony DeCarvalho
Subject: 9/11 does not equal Watchmen
Looked over Watchmen last night. I know the message board compared 9/11, the death of a few thousand people in two buildings, to the death of MILLIONS of people (HALF of NY) at the hands of an ALIEN, demonstrating that a positive global change did not occur.
I think that comparison clearly overestimates 9/11 and underestimates Watchmen.
The Soviets realized that there is a common enemy that threatens all of earth, so they ended hostilities. The message board analogy fails because in 9/11 America was the only target due to foreign policy, and we were already “at war” with terrorists.
But if an ALIEN destroyed half of NY, well, then every nation would have felt threatened and settle differences.
But all of this is besides the point because our earth does not have two nuclear super-powers like Watchmen. What would Ozymandias be stopping? We are not at the brink of a nuclear holocaust. Would he try to stop terrorism? That’s not possible, just like he couldn’t stop drugs if he wanted to. If he still wanted to make a global positive change, Ozymandias would have to come up with a different plan if he existed in this reality. That plan would be closer to
Return of Joshua. So I am very curious as to 1) what the threat will be in the movie, and 2) how it is implemented.
[Tony here: we discussed this later, and concluded that if they do the
death ray thing as mentioned in the message boards, it should be multiple rays,
striking a major city in every continent. And then a space ship crash
lands on earth, complete with fake yet realistic alien bodies. So,
millions die, and the world is united against a possible alien invasion.
Just one idea being thrown out there. Damian mentioned the psychic shock
of the alien in the original comic -- I hope that can be incorporated in their
new version, as well.
Of course, Damian and I would prefer at 12-episode Watchmen miniseries on
HBO, with Alan Moore in full creative control.]
RE: Last conversation between Dr. Manhattan and Ozy: “Everything remains the same”. You are correct. Probably referring to the never ending cycle of war and peace. Since the Doctor can see into the future, he sees that Ozy just put a temporary band-aid on the current crisis.
Sidenote: Could Dr. Manhattan jump from universe to universe? Would DC ever have the balls to do that?
Wishful thinking: Watchmen 2, Issue 1, full close-up of Rorschach’s “face” and hat. Sold out before it hits the stands.
“Bubastis. Forgive me.” [bastard]
Attempting three, actually: "Barrel Fever," by David Sedaris; "Accidental Billionaires" by Ben Mezrich; "Watchmen" by Alan Moore
meowy24: Alan Moore is Responsible for John Constantine as well?? Genius. Pure genius. –
"Terminator, Hit The North, Alan moore knows the score"
I want to get Alan Moore's take on all this. Since he's proper British.
Just happened to come across your blog while i was trying to do some background study on V & Alan Moore…
I totally agree with you…an absolutely brilliant movie, probably the onlt one that i have taken a liking for after so long….
As for the quote about the idea…is this the one you were talkin about???
“Beneath this mask there is more than flesh, Beneath this mask there is an idea,Mr.Creedy, and ideas are bullet proof.”
1. Huge Buffy/Whedon fan.
2. Identity Crisis is one of my favorite story lines…this is the first I've heard that it's hated for whatever reason.
RT only Uncaged Monkeys not sold out is 2nd Hammersmith 17/5 w/ special guests & alan moore
I'm just a part of God's plan to bring freedom to every human being on the planet. When you keep me surpressed, all you doing is surpressing God's plan. Fighting the new world order is something that I have to do. Don't get in the way of God's plan to free mankind from oppression, financies, knowledge, health, and other truths about this world. God chose me and your just going to have to trust me.
Ha! Um, yeah, that's a valid statement. Most Alan Moore comics are kind of disturbing, but I guess Lost Girls probably has the most limited audience of his works. I read it because it was written by Alan Moore and everything he touches is gold, but I did find it a difficult read. The only reason I was so patient with it was because the writing really was pretty good.
Alan Moore roteirizando um game até meados de 2012!?: Véio maluco até que pode fazer algo interessante…
All atheists are nihilists the only thing they could ever argue exists is pain and therefore maybe have some form of empathy. The atheist who believe in culture, art etc are the designer atheists, a trend which has swept the country ever since their old uncle Richard came on the scene.
I think Rorschach represents the true depiction of a black and white comic book superhero. He divides the line between good and evil that is nonexistent in the real world but is imagined in utopia or popular media. This is what a true “batman” “superman” or even “captain america” would look like in the real world
[EFDLT] Alan Moore : une biographie illustrée
Yeah, and I do believe anarchists skirt this issue all the time. They imagine some perfect society where people are nice to each other all the time. Some organization still needs to keep order.
RT rel=”nofollow” ¿Alan Moore se pasa a los videojuegos??? WTF!!
A new Holarchic Architecture: 130 –
lol, maybe it's just me, but watching this scene faintly reminds me of JD and Turk from scrubs…if they were a little bit more badass. XD
These are the 'people' who rule you behind all the flag waving and speeches – you wave your flags to slavery
“I’m not so sure I would describe either one of these as being “American”. Both books are from English writer Alan Moore and two English artists; one (Watchmen) being Dave Gibbons and the other (Batman: The Killing Joke) by an English artist who’s name I will not mention on this blog ever again.”
If you look at it that way, there really aren't many “American” comic books. Alan Moore writing about Yanks for an American publisher and getting paid in dollars and cents, instead of pounds and pence, is about as American as contemporary comics get.
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Absolute Promethea Book One:
It's pushing the twenty year limit, but the current Superboy and Impulse characters have had great moments..
I’m disappointed that nobody has asked Alan Moore about uncrippeling Barbara. Because that would be a funny interview.
Photo: Alan Moore, by Frank Quitely http://agentmlovestacos.com/post… (via rel=”nofollow”
RT rel=”nofollow” Viajar a 1984 y darle en mano esta imagen a Alan Moore.
Alan Moore tells the gripping tale of 19th century England's struggles with Jack the Ripper and grammar: "From He'll" #graphicnovelties
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Teaser for this week's show on The Gnostic Journal 4, which covers the Gnosis of Alan Moore & Stephan Hoeller
Thank you for reading and reviewing “The Killing Joke”. In my opinion, it isn't Moore's best work; however, I enjoy the special look at Batman and the Joker's relationship.
For Batman stories, I think the most notable are: “The Long Halloween” and Frank Miller's “The Dark Knight Returns” (which I'm not much of a fan of Miller outside of DKR, but even that has macheese-mo galore – Miller, in my opinion, over does the masculinity factor creating cheesy macho/machismo scenarios and characters).
For Alan Moore stories, I think my favorites are: “Watchmen” (which you've already noted) and “V for Vendetta” (which you've also already noted).
For Alan Moore Batman Stories – “The Killing Joke” is tops! (and a good quick intro to the Batman/Joker).
Thanks again for the post!
Prof Brian Cox and Alan Moore, amongst others, discuss ‘is cosmology a science’ (yes) [BBC radio show] –
New Statesman – "When I first heard about virtual reality I thought: is there any other kind?"
I was thinking the same thing today, kurumais. Good call. I'm taking you off my s*** list.
Now go get me a sammich!
LOL.
Elliott
A couple of further suggestions:
Shaun Tan's The Arrival
Alan Moore's From Hell
They are vastly different works:
The Arrival is a sequence of wordless panels – you'd be tempted to say pictures worth a thousand words,
while From Hell is a 580-page Behemoth – dense, multilayered, and complex as any novel.
Amazing!! RT rel=”nofollow” Just coaxed Alan Moore to do Expanding Mind in a coupla weeks. Sweet!
RT Nearly home. Happy after amazing #outofthisworld Alan Moore talk at british library. Not a 14… (cont)
Anyone see alan moore's tweeter page? Its all about his feelings on the watchmen movie. Bwahaha!
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